Former D1 Recruiter discusses recruiting process
Updated: Dec 11, 2018
Joel Mangrum, a former Division 1 baseball recruiter talks recruiting process with College Athlete Advantage. Mangrum is currently a Minor League Pitching Coach for the Cleveland Indians.
Name: Joel Mangrum
Cleveland Indians Minor League Pitching Coach
Name of School, Level Years as Recruiting Coordinator:
Austin Peay, Division 1, 5 years
New Mexico State, Division 1, 3 years
University of Louisiana at Monroe, Division 1, 1 year
1) What did a player's GPA mean to you?
A player’s GPA was a big piece to whether or not we recruited them. It determined how serious we could be about them at an early age. It also meant to us how serious their education was to them. GPA for some of the schools I coached at determined whether or not the athlete could afford to attend our university. It was also a major component to the makeup assessment.
2) Looking back, what was something that you undervalued when looking at a recruit? Overvalued?
I undervalued a player's experience in the weight room when I was a recruiting coordinator. That is one area looking back, that will tell you a lot about a guy. Does he have a plan for getting stronger and his overall fitness? Does he work through a personal trainer or through his high school\travel ball organization? You can find out a lot about his future by the way he approaches strength training.
3) Did you put more stock into what his high school coach or club coach said about him?
Case by case basis. In an ideal world I would have a relationship with both the high school and travel coaches. But, that doesn’t always happen. So for me, I put more stock into the people I trusted regardless of where they coached. And if I didn’t have a relationship with either, then I built one and gathered more info then just from the coaches.
4) What were some of the questions you asked his questions to get more background on a player?
What kind of teammate is he?
What does he like to work hard at?
How serious is he about his academics?
What is the most important factor to him in choosing a school?
5) What is biggest myth that parents have about the college recruiting process?
Probably that their son has to be everywhere all the time to get recruited.
6) When a player came on a visit with his family, what was the biggest thing they could do to turn you off?
Probably just general lack of respect. When you have a recruit and their family in for a visit, it’s like having family or friends over to your house. I think you just expect a certain level of respect. One thing that always impressed me was when the whole family came and they were all prepared. They put as much time into their knowledge of the school and program as they could coming in.
7) If you were recruiting today, how much stock would you put into 3rd party rankings like Perfect Game or PBR?
It’s a piece to the puzzle. I think just like anything else, it’s not necessarily the rankings that help, but it is the quality of person that can help you get another quality evaluation. A very small percentage of guys will actually get recruited without the college coach seeing them play at least a couple times. And there are people throughout baseball that are reliable and there are some that are not. You want to try and get help from as many reliable people and resources as possible.
8) How much did you weigh current success versus future projection when recruiting a player?
Again this is a case by case basis. This would be based on specific need for the program and their future. But, to give a general answer I think both are very important. There will be cases where one is more important than the other. If I had to pick one, I would say future projection weighed in more heavily than current success.
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